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Thursday, August 04, 2011

Jason Kenney Responds to B&H Propaganda

Okay, on the one hand we hate giving McKee and his, as our friend Daryle describes them on OPP, mall rats any publicity. Add to this we generally think Jason Kenney is at best a schmuck and at worst not a hell of a lot better on some issues than many of the boneheads we cover on this blog (better dresser that Paulie, though). However, given that Kenney has a bit of a history with McKee and his biggest supporter, Paul Fromm, we thought his statement on the recent posters in Forrest Lawn should be viewed by our readers:

Minister Kenney Condemns Anti-Immigrant Posters in Calgary

Ottawa, August 1, 2011 — The Honourable Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, issued the following statement condemning anti-immigrant posters in Calgary.

“I was disgusted to read about posters from a self-proclaimed “White Nationalist” group, which recently appeared in Calgary. These are loathsome individuals whose views are both sickening and ridiculous. They believe that, by convincing a gang of nasty half-wits to play dress up and litter suburban streets with crude and menacing flyers, they are promoting ‘European culture.’ The culture of Socrates, Schiller and Shakespeare deserves better.

“Our government condemns unequivocally the actions of these individuals and their message of hate. As a Calgary resident, I take particular offense and applaud my fellow residents who have taken it upon themselves to rid our city of these posters.

“As Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, I call on all Canadians to reject bigotry and racial injustice, which are contrary to Canada's fundamental values of freedom, democracy and the rule of law.”

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Candice Malcolm
Minister’s Office
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
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Communications Branch
Citizenship and Immigration Canada

We await another failed effort by Paulie to oust Kenney in the next federal election as a result of his pretty unequivocal condemnation of the posters, though in the meantime we're also sure it has served to stroke McKee's ego (though we've a feeling that Natalie is pretty heavily involved in this effort, at least with regard to spell checking McKee's post about it on Stormfront). 

The content of the posters is based on a terribly flawed study conducted by the Fraser Institute which, shall we say, has a wee bit of an agenda. However, the reality of immigration and the cost of immigrants to the rest of Canada looks to have been wildly exaggerated:

Each immigrant costs Canada $450 per year: report

By: Jon Woodward,
Date: Tuesday Jul. 26, 2011 9:49 AM PT
A team of B.C. economists has cut a conservative think-tank's estimate of the cost of immigration down to size.

Two months after the Fraser Instituteestimated that each immigrant on average costs the Canadian government $6,051 per year – a total cost of as much as $23 billion – Mohsen Javdani and Krishna Pendakur of Metropolis British Columbiatook another look at their numbers.

Using a wider sample size of immigrants, correcting calculation errors, and using data where it was available rather than estimates, the pair found a far lower annual cost of about $450 per immigrant, or about $2 billion per year.

"We find that there's a significant fiscal effect of immigration," Javdani said. "But we do not conclude that immigrants are a burden to the Canadian economy."

Javdani added Canada needs to find programs that benefit new arrivals to improve immigrants' labour market potential and performance, which would inject money into the Canadian economy.

The authors are both economists at Simon Fraser University.

Taxes vs. benefits

Both studies attempted to figure out whether immigrants fully pay for in taxes the public services that they use, like health care or education.

The Fraser Institute's study was an attempt to gauge whether our system should move to select for would-be immigrants who already have job offers, according to co-author Patrick Grady.

"Canada has to develop a much better system of assessing immigrants coming in," Grady told CTV News in a phone interview. "They can't seem to tell if a person is going to be able to find a job at a good salary or if they'll find employment at their profession and skill."

The Fraser Institute study looked at immigrants arriving after 1987 – about 4 million people – and compared them to average Canadians in the same time frame. The result was a report sharply critical of immigration.

It recommended that Canada only allow immigrants with employment lined up, and keep citizenship only if the immigrants hang onto their jobs.

The Metropolis study, which was given to CTV News before it is to be publicly released, at first set out to correct calculation errors in the Fraser Institute report, which it said were "apparently typographic in origin." Corrected calculations reduced the difference to $5,473.

Where the Fraser Institute estimated property taxes paid by immigrants – 72 per cent of the Canadian average -- the Metropolis team dug up data on immigrant households to find they actually pay about 96 per cent of the Canadian average.

"We prefer data to guesses," the report noted dryly.

The pair also widened their sample size, going back to 1970, which would capture more immigrants in their prime earning years.

"If you look at the longer term, these immigrants are going to contribute through earning higher incomes and paying higher taxes," said author Javdani.

That change reduced the estimated cost to $2,470 per immigrant, the report said.

Instead of comparing the immigrants to the average Canadian – which would include immigrants as well – the Metropolis study compared the immigrants to the Canadian-born, and found immigrants took $554 less in benefits.

They also ignored "public good" government expenditures that are less directly related to the size of the population, such as national defence – a difference of $,1692 per immigrant.

The end result was a much lower annual total cost of $450 per immigrant – about seven per cent of the Fraser Institute figure, and a very different conclusion, said Javdani.

Immigrants tend to be poorer

Javdani said the lesson is that immigrants tend to be poorer than Canadians, and that means we need programs that can help them succeed.

Kanako Heinrichs runs Queensberry Flower Company located in Granville SkyTrain Station. She said when she came from Japan in 2007 with her new Canadian husband, it was difficult to get a job.

"Most immigrants can relate to that," she said, adding that the hardest part was bouncing around through low-paying, dead-end jobs. "It's tough."

She contacted immigrant services agency SUCCESS, and they helped her develop an idea of bringing a Tokyo-style flower shop into a subway station. The project has been a huge success, to the point that she is opening another shop in the Yaletown subway station, which will employ more people.

"Everybody has a different background. In my case, I brought what I know very well over here," she said. "That's what immigrants can do. Brand new ideas, brand new products, new concepts that make the city more exciting."

Javdani said her story is a good example of how difficult it is to filter immigrants. "If you limit settlement in Canada to the people who have a job offer, you limit opportunities that immigration may bring," he said.

SUCCESS CEO Thomas Tam said the $450 per immigrant is an investment that pays off in the connections that immigrants make with the world, and the ideas and opportunities they bring Canada.

"We see thousands of immigrants, they settle down, they find a job, some create jobs for other people," he said.

Grady of the Fraser Institute said the institute stands by its report, with some corrections that he said don't dramatically change the final cost.

He rejected the Metropolis team's choice to go farther back than 1987, because immigrants from before that time largely came from developed countries. Since then, a court decision has required the government to accept applications from all over the world.

"Canadian taxpayers are going to be subsidizing future generations of immigrants if they keep coming at the rate they're coming. It's going to exacerbate the problems that we're going to get with respect to the aging of the population, and it's not going to solve the problem," Grady said.


Hugo Carmichael said...

I wonder how much Neo-Nazi Skinhead losers cost the Canadian Taxpayer each year??? These deadbeats and losers can never hold down a job, perpetually on welfare, constantly patronise the Criminal Justice System,criminally harass tax-paying immigrants and minorities and lower property values wherever they hang out.
On the other hand the overwhelming majority of immigrants are either gainfully employed sometimes with 2 or more jobs or actively seeking work, no matter how menial. Now which of these 2 groups are an asset to us Canadians? I only wish we could deport Neo-Nazi Skinhead Losers. But who would take them??

Anonymous said...

Kenney applauds Devine? Condemns right-wing rhetoric?

Pinch me I'm dreaming.

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Anonymous said...

I found your website by searching edmonton nazis because Ive recently had a situation with some...

I recently have had the "pleasure" of meeting some of these white power people in edmonton at the Amon amarth concert.... a group of about 6 - 9 of them kept yelling "white power" and doing that hand hailing sign (I dont know much about anti racism and the nazis but I'm interested in fighting against the nazis now). The nazis tried telling me about white power and I didnt agree. They then got out of control and one of them was holding his friends back and was actually trying to talk maturely about his ideals. Ironically enough a few of his friends got booted from the concert and the one trying to be mature cam up to me and hit me in the nose and quickly left..... 2 or 3 of them were bald and the rest had hair.