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Tuesday, April 30, 2019

Rollin with Pat & Jay Part 1: Debunked

ARC is pleased to let our readers know that the good folks at Yellow Vests Canada Exposed have joined the blog to write about the reactionary Yellow Vests movement in Canada. 

After participating in the United We Roll/Yellow Vest Convoy to Ottawa, Alberta resident Pat King and Saskatchewan resident Jay Riedel decided to embark on a tour they’ve called Rollin’ With Pat & Jay. Traveling across the country, they claim to “educate” Canadians on various issues they find important, however these “town halls” also include UN conspiracies, anti-refugee sentiments, and far-right ideas.

Riedel was the organizer of the Estevan Yellow Vests, although it’s unclear if he is currently. Both are members of the main Yellow Vests Canada page on Facebook. Much of the content shared on their personal and Rollin’ feeds is similar to what is found on various YVC pages and groups.

They’re currently traveling through Ontario, and have been met with some resistance. A largely community based effort was made to notify the legions (and other venues) at which they had planned their town halls. Yellow Vests Canada Exposed has tracked this activity, but has not made any active attempts to stop these town halls from going ahead as planned.

Both legions where the duo had planned to appear - Finch and Cornwall - canceled their reservation. King had previously stated this was due to the fact that they had not paid for the space, and he and Riedel both advised that when you pay for the legion’s space, you are entitled to “say whatever you want.”



On April 25, 2019 King and Riedel spoke with Robyn Miller of CBC Ottawa for a lengthy interview, which they live streamed themselves to Facebook prior to the piece being published. (Source: https://bit.ly/2UWJOFg) Numerous false and misleading claims were made to the CBC while King and Riedel remained largely unchallenged. We feel it’s important to provide accurate information, and context.

Note: The intent of this piece is to challenge just some of the false claims made during the interview, which was live streamed by King and Riedel, and not to debunk or discredit the article published by the CBC.

King claimed that the accusations of xenophobia and racism are “false accusations,” claiming the truth is “absolutely the contrary” and citing his girlfriend, who has African-Canadian children. Both are adamant that this is not true.

However, multiple posts illustrating xenophobic views have been documented from both of their personal social media pages, as well as their Rollin’ With Pat and Jay Facebook page.

Claim #1 - Racism and xenophobia are “false accusations





Claim #2 - Our ancestors were vetted, while present day immigrants and refugees were no/open borders

King advised CBC that the ancestors of Canadians were vetted and that currently, immigrants and refugees are not.

The historical reality is that immigration was largely unrestricted (except for Chinese people who had to pay the head tax and South Asian people who were barred from landing due to “continuous journey” regulations) until 1919, when the amended Immigration Act imposed restrictions or exclusions on more groups, mostly those involved in the first World War.

Meanwhile, the current process to vet immigrants and refugees is extensive, based on merit, and well-documented. When an individual presents at the border, they are entered into the legal process to apply for official refugee status, which involves vetting. If they are found to not meet the criteria, that individual is deported. Our immigration system even impresses people like Donald Trump, who stated that the US should have a system more like Canada’s immigration  process.

At the end of their live feed, the CBC producer advised them that some of their information is incorrect and suggested they speak with individuals responsible for ensuring appropriate vetting of newcomers. King and Riedel responded enthusiastically.

Claim #3 - Drama over King’s girlfriend’s job loss

When a social media user located in Arnprior saw King and Riedel were coming to their town to host an event, they reached out to the various legions they were planning on appearing at. YVCE amplified this message on Twitter, and King and Riedel’s followers soon started to send this individual messages demanding they cease their activity. Including one from Christy Marie Scheff, King’s girlfriend, who he states he met “because of the convoy” to CBC. The recipient confirmed that after the message was sent, Scheff blocked them from further contact.


YVCE shared this message, along with screenshots from Scheff’s Facebook profile. These posts included inflammatory and bigoted remarks about Muslims, and UN conspiracy theories.









An email was sent to Scheff’s employer by another social media user, advising them of the content their employee had posted online, and demanding action on their part. Scheff was fired, as confirmed in Facebook messages between the individual and the employer, however the cause was not specifically confirmed.


During the interview with CBC, King claims he spoke to person who sent the emails, as he had their telephone number and email address. We confirmed with the individual who sent the email that while he has received some calls from strange numbers lately, he did not speak with King, or Riedel. King also claimed that the Ontario Provincial Police is investigating the matter, yet the individual has not been contacted by authorities.

Scheff was allegedly advised her employment was terminated due to “attendance issues,” as told by King to the CBC producer after the interview had concluded.

Claim #4 - “All are welcome”

Both Riedel and King tell CBC that all are welcome to their events. In Pembroke, they identified who they believed to be a “troll” - an individual no one knew, who they claim was on their phone the entire time.

The comments directed toward this person in the live feed comments were not welcoming, and a few were outright threatening, with one referencing a taser (King and Riedel showed a stun baton in a previous live feed, claiming “if anyone starts any trouble, this is what you’re going to see.” source: https://bit.ly/2Pypbce timestamp: 2 min, 15 sec)

It is clear that anyone who may disagree with them may be subject to real-time online harassment, and have their photo shown to their followers. These are intimidation and harassment tactics, and not indicative of a healthy and open dialogue. Note: followers of King and Riedel refer to themselves often as “the kids,” and in turn, to King and Riedel as “dad/s.”




Claim #5 - Radicals are “vetted and kicked out”

In the interview with CBC both King and Riedel claim that radicals are “vetted and kicked out.” They aren’t clear if they are referring to Yellow Vests Canada or their own following, but both are demonstrably false, as heavily documented by YVCE. Riedel himself has made radical posts on social media.

The pair’s own views are radical. In addition to an average of 3 live feeds a day, lasting from an hour or more in length, they also either stream these town halls on Facebook live, or upload them to their YouTube channel. YVCE has previously tweeted the content of a town hall, filmed in Drayton Valley, AB. The event goes into detail about their experience with United We Roll, but also delves into far-right ideologies and conspiracy theories, as well as whitewashing problematic associations:



One of the more troubling claims of recent town halls is their propagation of the Rothschild global banking conspiracy, referring to them as an “ethnic group” that controls the World Bank, and claiming they are direct descendants of Hitler:


At the Drayton Valley town hall King told the crowd that there is a “flooding of refugees,” which will “abuse and destabilize our banking system,” advising that this is “intentional by the UN, to bankrupt Canada” and to impose Agendas 21 and 23, and a “one world government.” King went on to state that “there is a bigger, darker entity trying to overthrow the world.”
They have hinted that this entity is the spooky RoThScHiLdS family. It's 2019 and the Rothschilds still get blamed for everything, from funding Hitler, to the creation of Israel, to controlling the weather.

The Rothschilds family were a real familybut have been the victim of anti-semitic propaganda for quite some time. The Rothschilds did not benefit from the second world war, like most Jews, they had their assets seized by the Nazis. When did the first rumor start of the evil Rothschilds? In Nazi Germany where a movie called "Die Rothschilds Aktien auf Waterloo" talked about how Nathan Rothschilds had manipulated the market.
He didn't, but that is the story the Nazis told their supporters.


The Rothschilds don't own the Bank of Canada, the Canadian government does. In fact, because the government owned the bank and it could only lend to the federal government. This changed in the Basel Committee solution.

These are things that are well documented but Pat and Jay do not know the history of their own country, and would rather get information from people like Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck, who lies for money.

The Rothschilds opened their own banks and they do business pretty openly. You can do a simple search to find them online.

These people don't deserve any level of serious consideration

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