An Examination of Marc Lemire: Part IV

Oh, how we love freedom of information requests which result in information that was wholly unexpected.

A few months ago, we posted three articles concerning Marc Lemire in response to efforts by some of his supporters to turn Lemire into a free speech martyr with little or no involvement in organized racism. The first article we posted dealt with Lemire’s own documented history of making bigoted statements online and his seeming self-identification as a, “WN.” The second profiled his involvement in the Heritage Front, including his role as the last leader of the group. The final article examined the relationship that existed between Lemire and Ernst Zundel.

The preponderance of the evidence we published in those three articles would suggest to most rational people that Lemire isn’t the sainted hero he’s been made out to be by some of his supporters (except for the speechies, for whom no amount of evidence will be enough to convince them that Lemire isn’t the second coming of Giordano Bruno). If you oppose Sec. 13 and support Lemire’s efforts, then that’s fine, but don’t try to claim he’s something that he’s not.

Although we had been content with our efforts regarding Lemire, a recent re-examination of legal documents and evidence used in the Richardson and Kulbashian CHRT decision (found here) has provided us with cause to revisit Lemire’s involvement in organized racism.

On September 28, 2001, Terry Wilson of the London Police Service obtained a warrant to search the apartment of James Richardson. Richardson, who along with Alex Kulbashian, was a key member of the Tri-City Skins and co-founder of the Canadian Ethnic Cleansing Team (CECT). At that time Richardson was charged with uttering threats. Evidence gained as a result of this investigation was later used in the CHRT case against Richardson and Kulbashian. This evidence included computers seized during the investigation:

[80] A police crime analyst specializing in electronic evidence was involved in the search operation. He seized a computer found in the apartment, and once back at the police station, made a mirror image of its hard drive and examined its content. Amongst the directories on the drive was one that contained the logs of Internet relay chats in which the user of the computer had participated. These logs were organized into folders that were identified by the name of the participant who had initiated a particular chat session. The logs are set out in a manner similar to the script of a play. When participants “chat”, their name appears first, followed by the statement that they have typed in. Every participant’s comments can be viewed by all the persons taking part in the chat discussion.

A number of these chat logs were recovered from Richardson’s computer and used to identify him as, “WPCANADA” which was a name he used during the chats and which were found on business cards in Richardson’s residence:

[79] Mr. Wilson also found perforated sheets that are used to print business cards with a computer’s printer. The cards had already been printed. “Canadian Ethnic Cleansing Team! In partnership with the National Skinhead Front” was inscribed in the centre of each card. In the lower corner appeared the name “WPCanada”, followed by “Recruiting Director”. The cards had yet to be separated along their perforations, suggesting perhaps that they had been printed on the premises.

One of the chat logs recovered and used as evidence in the CHRT hearing was a conversation between Richardson (as “WPCANADA”) and a person using the name, “FdaJEWS.” We don’t think it would take much of a leap for our readers to discern what, the “f” of “FdaJEWS” stands for. And given the information found in the chat log, we here at ARC feel comfortable in stating our belief that the individual behind the “FdaJEWS” pseudonym is Marc Lemire.

Our evidence is as follows:

First, “FdaJEWS” writes at 01:49:02 of the chat that he had, “put a link to you guys on my website” referring to the CECT. At 01:51:14, “FdaJEWS” provides the link where “WPCANADA” could find the CECT link on “FdaJEWS” website. The link was http://www.freedomsite.org/test/chapters/ontario.html. A second link to an Alberta branch of the group is found at http://www.freedomsite.org/test/chapters/alberta.html. As Jason Kauppinen who posts on Free Dominion has noted, and as Mark and Connie Fournier have also noted, Freedomsite is Marc Lemire’s website. Lemire himself openly admits that Freedomsite his his project, and has not suggested that anyone other than himself is involved in the website. These links may also be found on the Heritage Front website which, until May 2002, was hosted on Lemire's Freedomsite.

Second, when “WPCANADA” asks “FdaJEWS” if he’s, “still with that broad” (01:55:47) ‘FdaJEWS” asks if he means, “melissa [sic]” (01:56:08). Marc dated Melissa Guille up until at least December, 2000.

Third, “WPCANADA” asks “FdaJEWS” what the hf (Heritage Front) is up to (01:44:59), ‘FdaJews” mentions how the Heritage Front was denied the opportunity to participate in the adopt-a-highway program (01:45:38). As we’ve established on this blog, and as has been determined by Justice Blais of the Federal Court, Lemire was the last president of the Heritage Front:

[35]Furthermore, Wolfgang Droege and Marc Lemire, two successive presidents of the Heritage Front, spent a lot of time in Mr. Zündel's house. Mr. Lemire, the last known president of the Heritage Front, was working for Mr. Zündel part-time, and then full-time for many years until Mr. Zündel left for the United States.

Finally, “FdaJEWS” provided “WPCANADA” with inside information regarding a Paul Fromm meeting (02:01:27) featuring Gunter Deckert (02:03:25). Fromm and Lemire have been allies for many years.

We think it would be fair to presume that “FdaJEWS” is, in fact, Marc Lemire based on the information provided in the chat log. And if it is Lemire, then the following information is perhaps noteworthy:

1. Lemire was involved in friendly inter-movement chats with people involved in an organization called the Canadian Ethnic Cleansing Team. Lemire also admits to adding links to the CECT to his own website and that he is open to pooling resources with the CECT. Lemire also invites “WPCANADA” and people that he trusts to a secret Paul Fromm meeting featuring the former head of the far-right German NPD, Holocaust denier, and convicted criminal Gunter Deckert.
2. He had a relationship with Alex Kalbashian whom he stated, "has helped me out in the past.”
3. Lemire is using an online pseudonym in “FdaJEWS” which could easily be considered to be hateful.
4. Refers to his girlfriend as, “my bitch” and suggests scamming a woman he’s dating for her money and then taking off.
5. When he mentions the Heritage Front, “FdaJEWS” refers to it as, “us.”

Anyways, we’ll provide the chat log that we’ve cited in it’s entirety now (any hyperlinks have been added by us to help explain some of the comments that were made in the chat log). We find it to be an especially interesting read.

Session Start: Thu Sep 06 01:24:23 2001

[01:24:23] Session Ident: FdaJEWS (WHITEPOWER@d141-31-25.home.cgocable.net)

[01:24:24] <FdaJEWS> hows shit bro

[01:24:36] <WPCANADA> not tobad man

[01:24:39] <WPCANADA> getting better

[01:25:18] <WPCANADA> what about you

[01:26:05] <FdaJEWS> not too bad either.

[01:26:08] <FdaJEWS> hows shit with cect

[01:26:23] <WPCANADA> good good, we started a newsletter

[01:26:29] <WPCANADA> www.vinlandvoice.com

[01:26:37] <WPCANADA> we are expanding into england

[01:26:54] <FdaJEWS> ya i got a few copies of it by E-Mail

[01:26:56] <FdaJEWS> looks good

[01:27:01] <WPCANADA> thanx

[01:27:06] <WPCANADA> it needs to be better

[01:27:12] <WPCANADA> but I ma under staffed

[01:27:13] <WPCANADA> LOL

[01:27:17] <FdaJEWS> i ran into a few old guys in Toronto, and they were wondering about alex. like how he has so much money and shit

[01:27:19] <WPCANADA> too many progects

[01:27:21] <FdaJEWS> i think it is ok.

[01:27:22] <WPCANADA> not enough time

[01:27:34] <FdaJEWS> but he is giving all these people web space, po boxes, etc

[01:27:42] <FdaJEWS> I went to WWF with a bunch of guys this week

[01:28:13] <WPCANADA> hmm

[01:28:17] <WPCANADA> cect pays for it

[01:28:30] <WPCANADA> we have lots of servers

[01:28:37] <WPCANADA> and we do it for free

[01:28:49] <WPCANADA> and most of the po box is from the same place

[01:28:52] <WPCANADA> why

[01:28:56] <WPCANADA> what are people saying

[01:29:14] <FdaJEWS> i donno. You know this movement is full of paranoid type people

[01:29:34] <FdaJEWS> just they for a guy who is on the computer 24/7 how does he have so much money

[01:29:42] <FdaJEWS> they said something else, just can't recall right now

[01:29:50] <FdaJEWS> something about who he hangs out with

[01:30:29] <WPCANADA> hmmm, probably people with thier thumb up their ass no doubt, he has an iq of 174... he works all dya, and uses a comp at work

[01:30:44] <WPCANADA> spends alot of his personal dough on donating web space

[01:30:53] <WPCANADA> we are the best web hoster in our movement

[01:31:02] <WPCANADA> and it is from donations and dedication

[01:31:16] <WPCANADA> who does he hand with

[01:31:27] <WPCANADA> if you havesomething to say then say it man

[01:31:31] <WPCANADA> dont beat the bush

[01:32:13] <FdaJEWS> hmmm little defensive there

[01:32:18] <WPCANADA> I need to be

[01:32:27] <FdaJEWS> if i had something to say about him, he is on my ICQ, I would say it to him

[01:32:32] <WPCANADA> I have alot riding on shit

[01:32:40] <WPCANADA> its my job to be defensive

[01:32:46] <FdaJEWS> I think he is ok, and he has helped me out in the past

[01:32:52] <WPCANADA> ok

[01:33:17] <WPCANADA> my opinion

[01:33:22] <FdaJEWS> well I also heard last week that I am a cop, so it was a fun week

[01:33:25] <FdaJEWS> all told

[01:33:25] <FdaJEWS> lol

[01:33:31] <WPCANADA> he is the best thing that has come to this movement in yrears

[01:33:35] <WPCANADA> he knows more

[01:33:38] <FdaJEWS> that I am building a database on the ARA.

[01:33:45] <WPCANADA> he is smarter then 99% of the goons out there

[01:33:46] <FdaJEWS> lol. I am like, thats not me doing that.

[01:33:53] <WPCANADA> he has more to offer then anyone

[01:33:57] <FdaJEWS> you in love with him man?

[01:34:02] <FdaJEWS> lol

[01:34:06] <WPCANADA> he knows many many people all over north america

[01:34:33] <WPCANADA> nope

[01:34:39] <WPCANADA> it is a big respect

[01:34:43] <FdaJEWS> well it's about time we get some shit going

[01:34:59] <WPCANADA> I would give up 100 skins for his smartnes

[01:35:03] <WPCANADA> and awarenes

[01:35:08] <FdaJEWS> so if he helps, I'm not going to stand in his way

[01:35:11] <WPCANADA> he pivks everyuthing up

[01:35:18] <WPCANADA> lets do iyt

[01:35:18] <FdaJEWS> but I would question the IQ of 174

[01:35:20] <FdaJEWS> lol

[01:35:23] <WPCANADA> LOL

[01:35:25] <WPCANADA> I did too

[01:35:32] <WPCANADA> ask him something tough

[01:35:41] <WPCANADA> he is a mental machine

[01:35:50] <WPCANADA> lets get something going

[01:35:53] <WPCANADA> lets do it

[01:35:56] <WPCANADA> do it right

[01:35:59] <WPCANADA> do it big

[01:36:09] <WPCANADA> and make one hellofa point doing it

[01:36:26] <FdaJEWS> ahh he's ok for a serb

[01:36:28] <FdaJEWS> lol

[01:36:36] <FdaJEWS> hey is mike jedig hanging with you guys now?

[01:37:17] <WPCANADA> serb?

[01:37:50] <FdaJEWS> lol i donno

[01:38:45] <WPCANADA> brb

[01:40:52] <FdaJEWS> hey who is Stockwell Day's chief advisor?

[01:40:53] <FdaJEWS> alex: dunno

[01:40:53] <FdaJEWS> me: hey in the human rights code, what section if the hate crimes part under?

[01:41:09] <FdaJEWS> alex: don't remember

[01:41:11] <FdaJEWS> HAHAHH

[01:41:40] <WPCANADA> cant remember.. hold on

[01:41:45] <WPCANADA> last amenment

[01:41:57] <FdaJEWS> huh?

Found in the June, 2002
copy of the Heritage Front
magazine, "UpFront"

[01:42:31] <FdaJEWS> days' chief advisor, Jason Kenny. Hate Crimes = Section 13 (1)

[01:44:59] <WPCANADA> so what is hf

[01:45:03] <WPCANADA> up to

[01:45:38] <FdaJEWS> just got refused the adopt a highway shit

[01:45:40] <WPCANADA> ammendment

[01:45:46] <FdaJEWS> was all over the radio in Toronto in in the paper

[01:45:49] <WPCANADA> I seen that man

[01:45:53] <FdaJEWS> what ammendment?

[01:45:56] <FdaJEWS> are you talking about?

[01:46:00] <WPCANADA> did you expect any diff.?

[01:46:13] <WPCANADA> corrected my spelling

[01:48:19] <WPCANADA> you dont like cect do you?

[01:48:52] <FdaJEWS> what makes you say that?

[01:48:53] <WPCANADA> just a feeling I sometimes get

[01:49:02] <FdaJEWS> I put a link to you guys on my website

[01:49:12] <FdaJEWS> I promoted you to people out west

[01:49:26] <FdaJEWS> you have some good people with you

[01:49:26] <WPCANADA> when did you put a link up

[01:49:38] <FdaJEWS> i donno . a few months ago

[01:49:43] <FdaJEWS> actually I put your address

[01:49:44] <WPCANADA> hmmm

[01:49:50] <WPCANADA> I did nt see it

[01:50:00] <WPCANADA> sweet

[01:50:18] <WPCANADA> I e-mailed you today to exchage links with us

[01:50:42] <FdaJEWS> no shit

[01:50:48] <FdaJEWS> I didn't look at my E-Mail today

[01:51:14] <FdaJEWS> http://www.freedomsite.org/test/chapters/ontario.html

[01:51:19] <FdaJEWS> C.E.C.T.

[01:51:19] <FdaJEWS> P.O. Box 1061

[01:51:19] <FdaJEWS> 31 Adelaide St. East

[01:51:19] <FdaJEWS> Toronto, Ontario

[01:51:19] <FdaJEWS> M5C 2K4

[01:51:20] <FdaJEWS> http://www.wpcect.com

[01:51:38] <FdaJEWS> http://www.freedomsite.org/test/chapters/alberta.html

[01:51:42] <FdaJEWS> C.E.C.T

[01:51:43] <FdaJEWS> http://ab.wpcect.com

[01:51:43] <FdaJEWS> E-mail: ab@wpcect.com

[01:52:28] <WPCANADA> sweete

[01:52:32] <WPCANADA> sweeet

[01:52:36] <WPCANADA> thanx

[01:52:43] <WPCANADA> then why dont we do shit

[01:52:49] <WPCANADA> why dont we pull resources

[01:53:09] <FdaJEWS> i have never been against that

[01:53:26] <FdaJEWS> it seems like you, melissa, and others always think I am against them

[01:53:33] <FdaJEWS> must be something I am doing wrong. I donno

[01:53:51] <FdaJEWS> I like to relay to others what I hear. Just like I hope you would do the same to me

[01:54:14] <WPCANADA> it just sometimes I never har from you

[01:54:35] <FdaJEWS> well, I go to school full time. I am busy.

[01:54:37] <WPCANADA> and I cant understand when two grupds with many resources dont get shit gooing

[01:54:50] <FdaJEWS> it's hard for me to get much free time anymore. not like I used to

[01:54:58] <FdaJEWS> thus it is very hard for me to organize

[01:55:01] <FdaJEWS> anything.

[01:55:47] <WPCANADA> are you still with that broad

[01:55:57] <WPCANADA> we just uploaded your link

[01:56:02] <FdaJEWS> which one

[01:56:04] <FdaJEWS> ?

[01:56:08] <FdaJEWS> melissa?

[01:56:38] <WPCANADA> noowindsor broad

[01:57:16] <FdaJEWS> ya I see her still

[01:57:28] <FdaJEWS> she has lost like 20 pounds dood

[01:57:33] <FdaJEWS> lookig not too bad

[01:59:33] <WPCANADA> sweeet

[02:00:25] <FdaJEWS> you still in hamilton?

[02:00:31] <FdaJEWS> we should get together some time

[02:00:43] <WPCANADA> off and on, lOL I am a vagabond now

[02:00:48] <WPCANADA> but yes

[02:00:52] <WPCANADA> we should

[02:01:02] <FdaJEWS> hows the guys in Kitchener?

[02:01:27] <WPCANADA> not to bad, drunk and fightimng like usual

[02:01:27] <FdaJEWS> Paul Fromm has two meetings coming up, if you want to tell you trusted guys about it. I'll give you the info.

[02:01:34] <FdaJEWS> 1 is in Kitchener, the other in Toronto

[02:01:37] <WPCANADA> ok

[02:01:52] <FdaJEWS> it is a German political prisoner speaking.

[02:01:58] <FdaJEWS> what E-Mail address should Isend it to

[02:02:06] <WPCANADA> cect@wpcect.com

[02:02:29] <WPCANADA> whats his name

[02:03:02] <WPCANADA> I will be there

[02:03:25] <FdaJEWS> Gunter Deckert

[02:03:29] <FdaJEWS> I just E-Mailed it to you

[02:04:11] <WPCANADA> ok great

[02:04:48] <FdaJEWS> I'm not sure if it will be all that great, since I don't know if deckert is a good speaker, but he was a big guy in Germany

[02:07:00] <WPCANADA> I will bring a few lads maybe 10 or so

[02:07:06] <WPCANADA> its wed. soI dont know

[02:07:28] <FdaJEWS> ya Wed in Kitchener

[02:07:31] <FdaJEWS> Fri in Toronto

[02:07:39] <FdaJEWS> I just told Alex about the friday one

[02:08:25] <WPCANADA> he is going to friday

[02:08:30] <WPCANADA> I will do kitchener

[02:08:47] <FdaJEWS> cool. sounds good

[02:08:48] <WPCANADA> maybe we can do security

[02:08:50] <WPCANADA> TCS

[02:08:57] <FdaJEWS> if the ara shows up, I'm sure you can give them a "warm" welcome :)

[02:09:04] <FdaJEWS> ya would be a good idea

[02:09:11] <WPCANADA> sweeeet

[02:09:15] <WPCANADA> they hate us there

[02:09:19] <FdaJEWS> i doubt they will tho

[02:09:31] <WPCANADA> LOL we beat up charney and ichim a few weeks back

[02:09:46] <FdaJEWS> hey what ever happened to that guy in Brantford .. bud? I have not heard from him in a while

[02:09:56] <FdaJEWS> HAHAHAHAHAH ichim! LOL

[02:09:57] <WPCANADA> he is in cali

[02:09:58] <WPCANADA> LOL

[02:10:05] <FdaJEWS> poor guy, first his E-Mail, now arm in a cast

[02:10:07] <WPCANADA> I kicked his ass

[02:10:12] <WPCANADA> broke his glasses

[02:10:13] <FdaJEWS> HAHAHAH CALI! with that chick. man....

[02:10:15] <FdaJEWS> hahahhahaha

[02:10:24] <WPCANADA> hahahaha yeah

[02:10:28] <WPCANADA> and she is a bitch

[02:10:35] <FdaJEWS> hhahahahaha bet he wasn't shouting "smash the nazi's scum" then

[02:10:48] <WPCANADA> and she watches oprah all day

[02:11:00] <WPCANADA> hges moving home

[02:11:05] <FdaJEWS> HAHAHAHAH oh god

[02:11:19] <FdaJEWS> you knew she was a nut when she called him 24 hours a day!

[02:11:37] <WPCANADA> she isnt even racist

[02:12:13] <FdaJEWS> fuck dood, that is shit

[02:12:18] <FdaJEWS> no wonder he is going to dump her

[02:12:23] <FdaJEWS> get her cash and beat it

[02:13:33] <WPCANADA> lol yup

[02:13:56] <WPCANADA> haha poor bud

[02:14:07] <WPCANADA> gets his dick wet for the first ti,me

[02:14:10] <WPCANADA> and she is a bitch

[02:16:17] <FdaJEWS> hahaha finally lost her virginity

[02:16:33] <FdaJEWS> hey does melissa brother chris still hang around?

[02:16:43] <FdaJEWS> i was hoping that both of them would not fade out of the movement

[02:17:20] <WPCANADA> ??? I havent heard really anything

[02:17:29] <WPCANADA> the odd newsletter here and there

[02:17:50] <FdaJEWS> ya but I mean, he doesn't hang out with you guys?

[02:18:15] <FdaJEWS> that kind of sucks. We got to a point where lots of people were hanging out, then it dropped off

[02:18:17] <WPCANADA> nooo

[02:18:46] <WPCANADA> yeah

[02:19:09] <FdaJEWS> oh well, she wrote me a nice letter she sent to the minister of transportation about us. I guess she is still hanging around on the net a bit.

[02:19:18] <FdaJEWS> oh well, too bad. sad to see another group go

[02:20:00] <WPCANADA> her mistake was getting her young brother involved

[02:20:00] <WPCANADA> her mistake was getting her young brother involved

[02:20:23] <FdaJEWS> oh him! lol

[02:20:26] <FdaJEWS> i forgot about that

[02:20:36] <FdaJEWS> no I mean chris. was chris still hanging around. not the pervert

[02:20:38] <FdaJEWS> hahahahahahaha

[02:20:43] <WPCANADA> nooo

[02:25:44] <WPCANADA> Ihavent heard fromc chris at all

[02:26:37] <FdaJEWS> damn thats too bad

[02:26:47] <FdaJEWS> he isn't in jail for certain files on his computer too is he

[02:26:49] <FdaJEWS> hahahahaha

[02:27:02] <WPCANADA> LOL I hope not

[02:27:16] <FdaJEWS> hahah

[02:27:25] <FdaJEWS> i'll see if I can come to that meeting on Wed

[02:27:29] <FdaJEWS> bring my bitch along

[02:28:19] <WPCANADA> sweeet

Session Close: Thu Sep 06 02:34:53 2001